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New Policy: Retiring Inactive Characters

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Foghladha
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Posted On: 07/21/2012 at 10:31 AM
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Greetings Everyone,

Well I really wanted to avoid this step, however with GW2 having limits on how many people can be part of the family, and us growing Guardian side so large that the XML Export has broke. (The XML is incomplete). I guess it was inevitable.

So to get us back under the bar where we can parse the family again we will be adopting the following timers.

  • Un-Registered/Un-Claimed Characters: 90 Days Inactivity
  • New Members: 120 Days Inactivity
  • Members: 180 Days Inactivity
  • Veteran Members: 360 Days Inactivity
  • Warlords/Elders: Omit

Now. I want to make this really really really clear. While the game will say I "Kicked" people from the family this is NOT the case. If at any time this character logs back in we will reinvite them and reinstate their rank to where it was when they went away from the game. Think of it as going into retirement and coming out of retirement. Our doors are always open to people and it's important to know that THIS IS NOT A KICK.

If there were any other option I'd do so. But without being able to parse the roster there''s no way we can manually maintain the 4,500 characters in our family. I am truly sorry we have to make this step and I REALLY hope all of those who have been away for more than 90 days take the time to read this.



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"It's not the loot and accolades you walk away with, it's the memories and friendships that you cherish forever." - Foghladha
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Caomhnoir de na Fhiaigh Corcra
DufRaven
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Replied On: 07/21/2012 at 10:59 AM PDT

Sounds good to me Boss

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Ban Finsceal de na Ulchabhan Dearg
Jexia
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Replied On: 07/21/2012 at 01:30 PM PDT

That sounds good Fog. You have given everyone time lines and restated they are not kicked from guild 8)

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Teaghan
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Replied On: 07/21/2012 at 01:41 PM PDT
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Those timelines are way more than fair. Many guilds start removing folks after 1-2 months of inactivity, so this is very generous. Folks will understand getting removed after so long - and we always welcome them back!

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Malle
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Replied On: 07/21/2012 at 09:39 PM PDT
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kudos to your programming that keeps so large a guild cared for. not anything you can do when code breaks like this. i think the "once Gaiscioch always Gaiscioch" is pretty ingrained in our culture. so that should help. you have probably already done this, but has this policy been added to the overall membership info? i'm just thinking down the road in time, i wouldn't want this thread to be buried because it was posted a bit ago... :) thanks to all the elders for all they do, especially programmer #1 :)

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Lorgaire de na Capall
StDrahcir
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Replied On: 07/22/2012 at 12:48 AM PDT

Only seems fair. Especially if having too many inactives is going to cause issues.

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CorticalScrub
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Replied On: 07/22/2012 at 07:10 AM PDT
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Thats totally fair. My old WoW guild would kick you from the guild for having 3 days of unannounced inactivity. You could return but all ranks and earning you had were reset and any raid spots you had were revoked. It was brutal. Basically WoW ruined raiding and being in a guild for me for the longest time. Thankfully Fog and this entire family has shown me not eveyone in the modern MMO world is like my old WoW guild.

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Ridire de na Ulchabhan
Engwar
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Replied On: 07/22/2012 at 07:36 AM PDT
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Hey Fog as much as I loved playing Rift I will not be returning. GW2 has filled a lot of what I've missed from DAoC and I pretty much think it will be the reason I leave sub based mmo's behind. With that said you can remove all my Rift characters if you need to. Engwar Eukgwar Eragwar Eiragwar Pretty much anything that starts with E and ends in gwar...lol

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 07/22/2012 at 10:05 AM PDT
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Well at this point first run through cut our size in half. We should be a lot more compact and more realistic with our numbers. We have a little over 1800 Characters that are played in the past 30 days.

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Valtyrian
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Replied On: 07/22/2012 at 01:27 PM PDT
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Sounds totally Fair. Good policy

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Caomhnoir de na Fhiaigh Corcra
DufRaven
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Replied On: 07/23/2012 at 04:07 AM PDT

Fog's Still Icing his Foot after all the Kicking he did earlier :P

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Taoiseach de na Arach Glas
Foghladha
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Replied On: 07/23/2012 at 09:33 AM PDT
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Retireing duf retiring ;) it wasn't a kick :P

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Curadh de na Faolchu Donn
Barbossa
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Replied On: 07/23/2012 at 01:31 PM PDT
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Fog, You can remove my chars from Rift Barbossa Malware Acire been so long since I logged in I don't remember the rest, any that have Barbossa Alt or Malware Alt, you can remove.

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 07/23/2012 at 01:34 PM PDT
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Oh dont worry my script does the work for me. When your timers up the script will take care of it.

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Ridire de na Fhiaigh
Hexamex
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Replied On: 07/23/2012 at 02:43 PM PDT
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I am no longer playing Rift and haven't for awhile, but I will be joining y'all in GW2. Love that game and very much looking forward to playing it. So anyway please remove any of my Rift characters, I have no plans to return to that game.

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Curadh de na Fhiaigh
Liljoe
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Replied On: 07/24/2012 at 08:12 AM PDT

i totally understand fog, i havnt played rift in some time and will going to GW2, i dont plan to return to Rift. retiring all my char there.

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Ban Seaimpin de na Fhiaigh Oráiste
Slainidh
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Replied On: 07/24/2012 at 06:12 PM PDT

I wonder, my main is Slainidh, but I have all my other characters in the guild. Do I have to have them get some contribution points in order for them to remain active, or if one character remains active, the others will be "grandfathered" in?

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 07/24/2012 at 06:28 PM PDT
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You just need to claim your characters then they will be linked to your player account. Then all you need to do is log them in every 3 months and you should be fine :)

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Themau
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Replied On: 07/24/2012 at 09:17 PM PDT
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hmm it sounds good allthough the times are too big for my taste would have em half so 60 days members 80 days cause whose in these days really one month away ofc there are always occasions where it can happen ,but yeah the ton of charecters need to be cleaned to see whose really active and whose not

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Glielhry
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Replied On: 07/26/2012 at 06:29 AM PDT

Policy sounds very reasonable to me.

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Briseadh
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Replied On: 07/27/2012 at 06:51 AM PDT
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This is definitely reasonable. =) I think my Rift characters for both sides will disappear from the game rosters when my account goes inactive on 8/12. I don't think they leave characters in a guild associated to inactive accounts because that would be silly, so mine should definitely be gone on 8/13. I do not plan on reactivating it. See you all in GW2!

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Cargan
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Replied On: 07/29/2012 at 07:28 PM PDT
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Sounds like a lot of people are in the same boat just cant find a lot of enthusiaism for rift great as it is with GW2 so close.

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Jerich
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Replied On: 07/30/2012 at 12:45 AM PDT

One thing nice about the GW2 cap, is I think the 500 limit is per account, not per character. I believe that means someone with one character will count the same as someone with eight alts.

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Briseadh
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Replied On: 07/30/2012 at 08:36 AM PDT
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Jerich is correct - GW2 is by player account, not on a per character basis. So 500 players can be in a guild. I know we had the issue of by character 500 count in Warhammer, so GW2 makes it very nice. Us altaholics won't fill up extra spots like in Warhammer and Rift. This will also allow us to really see the numnber of players we have rather than the number of characters. The thing we don't have in the start and are not sure of yet, is the ability to connect to GW2 like we can with Rift to keep the website updated with game and vice versa. It has to all be done manually and this is being discussed in another thread, but at least the game helps us know number of players this way.

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