Claiming Participation

Please when claiming participation make sure you only claim the event you were on. 

Leaders of the groups:  Please say what name you will be posting it under as toon name could be different from website.  Group members ask what name it will be posted under.

Thanks

I was a little confused when i was claiming participation in last weeks WvW events, I think I found the events ok, but is it ok if I claim participation for my events that week all at once or do I have to do it as soon as the event is over?

So Bloodmaw ran a group through AC on Sunday about 3:00pm and he posted it and he says and it shows up for him and another group mate sees it also. I do not see it. For Sunday, Sept 2nd, I see a WvW event and a AC dungeon run by Briin. Does everyone else see one by Bloodmaw?

Quick question for the sake of clarity. If I'm in a WvW event, and I am asked/volunteer to go scout the east side of the map, and I don't make it back to the west keep before they finish taking it.. do I claim participation on the keep, even though I was on the other side of the map, since I was participating in the event? Or, should I not claim participation for that portion?

i hope we don't have to keep track of each objective we helped in. Sometimes I'm dead and have to waypoint back and do a lot of running and may miss out on helping on some parts. I just looked at the times. If I was there from 6-9 I claimed everything from 6-9. Maybe thats wrong

This is the paragraph at the top of the page after you click on Fellowship, claim participation, under Participation. "Track Your Participation Greetings Soldier! We thank you for your participation in one of our many daily activities. Please choose from the list below and mark the objectives that you assisted in. Please note that you may mark participation for all objectives that took place while you participated in an event. If you were not at the castle when it fell because you were helping secure a battlefield objective, you get credit for capturing the keep as well. While all troops may not be on the front lines, all troops contribute to the overall success of the battle. Please also take time to award your leaders that you felt did a wonderful job a Token of Valor (Give Token of Valor)."

» Edited on: 2012-09-02 21:20:50

Kiba events stay up for several days so it is ok to go in and claim them the next day.

@ Nebelun: you would claim the whole thing, as you were perfoming a role as part of a larger team. Your contribution being just as important as input from those players at the keep!

I hope I did it right. I participated in the crafting faire and when I went to check the box there were about six capture/assassination events listed with it. We did kill some veterans and whatnot along the way so I cicked them all even though I didn't recognize any names - I assumed this was what we did during the zerg as they were all listed as 3:01 time! If the leader could say over Raid Call as we do stuff "I will post XXX as a capture for this" going forward as mentioned above it would help a lot as we all learn the zones/objectives in this new game. Sometimes the family zerg moves so fast...you just go with it :)

Twilah if you were there for the entire event you claim the entire thing. However if peeps leave make note of the time you left and only claim what you participated in. Example when i join Fog or Spartan or anyone on their events sometimes i just get real tired and have to leave early so i note what time I left and when i go to claim the next day i only mark what i participated in.

The WvW I did, I couldn't recognize my group leader versus the website name. Since we don't have written comms in-game cuz the leader isn't in the same guild and there's no raid chat, it can be hard to recognize the spelling. For example on Aug 28, I was in a WvW guild event from start to finish. I couldn't tell which of the three. Lotapia, Cossack, or Spartan. So I just guessed and picked the smallest one, figuring it all works out in the end. Note that you CAN change your website name to match your characters better. I did this for the migration from Rift to GW2. With practice, we'll get this down smooth.

Events from yesterday, the 2nd, are already gone?

Right now (9/3 at 10:30 pm Pacific) I see GW2 events going back to 8/28

One question I ran into when trying to claim yesterday's event: With the queue times for WvW being fairly ridiculous at times, and given my work schedule on weekdays, I normally end up joining the event in the middle. However, I've noticed most of the events posted don't claim the exact time nor order an objective was accomplished. For example, during last night's WvW event, I was able to get in around 7:30 and stay with the event until 9PM, but wasn't able to determine the order of objectives that were accomplished (since they all listed as being completed at 9PM). I ended claimed a series of events that I remembered doing, but I may have either not claimed parts I did participate in or claimed others I did not. Should I be keeping a record personally of what events I do as the night goes on and then match that up with what's posted, is there a way the event goals can have the times posted in the order they're done, or is there something else I may be missing about how to claim partial events?

Sorry for bumping an old topic, but Kitasha had the same question I do and I was unable to find an answer anywhere. I attended last night's WvW event, but because of the queue, and an internet disconnect leading to another queue, I only contributed for 2 of the 3 hours. The event went from 8-11 my time, and I was fighting from 8:30-9:30 and again from 10-11. I know I can claim partial events, but when I look at the list of everything that was done, the times go from 9:04 to 9:10. Any ideas how I should claim this?

We are allowing members who are stuck in queue for family events to claim participation for the event. However that means you need to have actually be queued with the intent of joining the event. This is a system based on honor and if we find your claiming participation for things your not even trying to be a part of it will result in permanent expulshion from the family in this game and every game to follow. A person is only worth as much as they value their word.

Ok, thanks for the clarification Fog. For what it's worth, I'm totally fine with claiming partial events, even if it's because I was stuck in queue. It's just difficult to know what to select when there's 18 'Defense Event' all listed as being at 9:05 and 9:06. Not sure if this is just a glitch or something, but being new and trying to do it for the first time was a little confusing. Thanks again!

If I had claimed WvW events while stuck in queue I would have about 1200-1500 more points, LOL. There were at least 3 where I listened in on 2 or more hours of the event while anxiously hoping to get in. I am sure I was not alone. Still, I do not think I will claim events I cannot get in, because after while I was doing other things (leveling/crafting) while waiting. I hope there is an eventual solution to the queue problem besides trying to get in WvW 2 hours before an event starts, which because of RL is not always possible.

Yeah Taibhse, that's how I feel. I don't really want to claim stuff that I didn't participate in. Even if it's not really my fault WvW is so packed, it still kind of feels like cheating I guess. So I think what Fogs suggesting is that if you honestly intend to join the event, and do whatever is in your power to do so, you'll be eligible for credit. Which seems fair to me, instead of penalizing people for WvW being busy, or making people feel like they have to queue up 2 hours before event time just to make sure they get a spot.

If it's a comfort, I saw a similar sentiment in a friend who was in the same boat. Even though she heard Fog announce that, she still didn't feel like she deserved any points for being in queue. I eventually convinced her to be okay about it by pointing out that listening to raid call for the length of time can very much be considered a learning experience with the family. The various WvW leaders I have followed all give tips, reminders, and thoroughly explain the "in your face" style of breaking the enemy that Gaiscioch as a whole seems to bring to the battlefield. She learned a lot and has brought it to bear since in WvW events. If you're in queue and not in raidcall, I highly suggest joining a borderland channel while you wait and gain something as you wait that benefits the family as a whole!

Since rank (or lack thereof) doesn't matter to me, I've been perfectly cool with giving gold, and donating stuff to the guild without claiming stuff for it. Since it doesn't bother me that Ill still be a treubh a year from now, is there any other benefit to claiming points that I'm not seeing?

» Edited on: 2012-09-19 20:22:00

» Edited on: 2012-09-20 09:50:07 NM, I didnt realize we could get "stuff". Rank I don't need, but "stuff", I like :P

» Edited on: 2012-09-20 12:34:35

I usually claim participation on the events only after I step into the WvWvW area, even knowing I could be claiming the whole event since the moment I was queued to it. But this is just a personal decision. I want to get credit only for what I took part -- even if my part was played somewhere else in the WvWvW area, securing a supply dolyak while my kindred defended a keep or something like that. If I can give my two cents, I would like to ask that the event conquests be posted in chronological order as much as possible. I know we can't always know the time each thing happened, but it gets harder to mark only what you took part into when you have to remember every event that happened while you were there, and what events probably happened when you weren't there yet. It's easier if i can simply find the 1st event I took part in the night and simply mark everything listed after that (since I usually stay until the end of the events I take part).

im in the same boat on the queueing up part, because usually i get home from work just as the WvW events are beginning, so I cant queue up to get in beforehand, but so far i have been lucky w/ queue times that havent been obscenely long like what ive heard from others. I try not to miss any of spartan's WvW events, even if i have to drop my stuff at the door and play in my work clothes hehe :).

How long does it take for Claimed Participation to show up in your Fellowship total? I believe that my total Fellowship is inaccurate.

It's instant Blarkenton. As soon as you claim your points it's reflected in your Fellowship points.

Thanks Fog.

Is it also fair to say "use your best judgement" on claiming partial events? The times on the website appear to be auto-populated based on when the leader adds them to the event. For example, looking at Fog's PvE event from last night, I see various objectives spanning 6-ish to 8-ish pm, and I presume that he was adding them as we went. Not every event leader seems to do it this way, however, as several of the WvW events have dozens of objectives logged in the space of about 10 minutes - either they're super awesome fast (which I won't rule out), or they're logging everything at the end. Now, it hardly seems fair to require event leaders to log their objectives in real-time. Sometimes things just move too fast for that to be feasible, especially in situations like WvW. A better answer, I would think, is to say "use your best judgement". For example, I did WvW one night, and was there for 2 of the scheduled 3 hours. By morning, when I went to claim the event, I wasn't sure which objectives we took how many times, and I'm not really sure what denotes a "Defend" objective. Also, I don't really know the names of everything in WvW yet, I pretty much stick with the zerg, do what I'm told, and make red things die. I wound up claiming 2/3 (rounded down) of the objectives, relying on memory and judgement to select which to claim. Is this a reasonable thing to do? Yes, it's nit-picky of me to even bring this up, but it's there, and it'll come up eventually anyway.

As other have speculated, the events on the site are timestamped when they are entered, meaning if a leader chooses to enter all objectives at the end they will all have the same timestamp. I can completely understand how one would not want to break up the pace of WvW to enter events, especially when speed and quick response is so integral to our approach, and a stall after taking an objective can make the cat herd (zerg) break apart out of impatience and uncertainty. One possible option, though I hate to suggest putting anything on Fog's hugely over-flowing plate, would be allowing an option of setting a time when entering objectives as an alternative to the current-time-stamp. I am not certain, but I believe objectives show up in the game chat logs somewhere (need to confirm this), so a leader could then apply accurate times while still enjoying the luxury of waiting until the end of an event to enter things. And Arowefell, a "defend" objective is the in-game defense tick when an objective is being attacked/sieged. It is based on a game mechanic, not an arbitrary definition of defense on the leader's part.