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Get ready to raid in GW2 #2: Things You Can Do to Prepare

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Lakshmi
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Posted On: 09/27/2015 at 07:24 PM
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So now that you've decided Raiding is for You, here are some things you can do now to prepare.

 

Build for Flexibility

“Be Prepared” is not just a Boy Scout motto, it’s a good motto for raiders, too.  Try to be flexible in the classes you can bring, the weapons you use, and the roles you can play.

  • Bring both a melee option and a ranged option.  This is classic raiding wisdom.  Sometimes we get encounters that are particularly punishing for folks fighting in melee range.  Sometimes the opposite.  Be ready for either!

  • Buff your team.  If your class can share buffs, bring them!  

  • Know your utility.  Can your class blast a field?  Break a breakbar?  Strip boons?  CC trash mobs?  Reflect projectiles?  Dodge, dash or teleport to a safe spot?   In Guild Wars 2 there’s a lot more to combat than DPSing, tanking or healing.  Learn about and master the special utility your class can bring.

  • Bring multiple builds and gear sets.  Prepare at least a couple different roles your class can perform in a raid.  Have the builds and gear sets all set to go.  Practice the builds ahead of time so you are familiar with how they play.

  • For weapons and trinkets, go Ascended.  Ascended weapons are noticeably more powerful than the exotic versions; try to bring ascended versions for your key dps and healing weapons.   Ascended trinkets are also noticeably better than exotic and relatively easy to obtain using Laurels or Guild Commendations.

  • For armor, focus on stats and runes.  Exotic armor is probably good enough, especially in the first raids.  More important is to carry armor sets specifically tuned to the roles you plan to cover, complete with appropriate runes.   

Something new with HoT: armor purchased with WvW badges or karma will be salvageable!  This makes it a lot cheaper to carry around multiple armor sets, and you’ll be able to salvage those expensive runes if you end up replacing an armor set.

 

Plan to run around (or away)

Positioning and spatial awareness have always been a part of successful raiding in MMOs; it’s one of the key things you have to figure out as you learn an encounter.  The developers have warned us to expect lots of this in GW2 raids.

GW2 combat puts a premium on evasion.  Remember Nochtli in Dry Top?  To beat him you need to run, dodge, jump, teleport, or pop stability.  Usually all of the above!  This is a great place to practice your movement skills.

Dodge is one way to evade, but also you’ll find the Evade effect on some weapon skills and utilities. And don’t forget your leaps and teleports (which often work while stunned)!  Super speed can be very helpful too, due to the way normal runspeed steps down when in combat.

 

Prepare to break that bar!

The Breakbar mechanic coming in HoT replaces the Defiance “CC immunity most of the time” mechanic that GW2 bosses have rocked since launch.  Breakbars are much less finicky than Defiance, and come with a new, easier-to-interpret UI.

The breakbar appears below the target’s health bar. The metallic, “wood screw” graphic means the bar can’t be broken (yet).  Typically you’ll need to do something to advance the encounter (DPS the boss, interact with a raid mechanic, etc.) before the breakbar becomes breakable.

When the bar turns blue, break it ASAP!   Something... important happens when the bar reaches empty (although exactly what varies from encounter to encounter).  For example, breaking the bar might be a required step to advance the encounter to the next stage, or the boss may become vulnerable to a certain type of attack.  For some encounters you will have a limited time to break the bar, and failing to do so in time will unleash a powerful attack from the boss.  

Bring some CCs to “attack” the breakbar.  In the encounters we’ve seen so far, hard CCs break the bar faster than soft CCs.

“Hard” CCs (disables):

  • Stun
  • Daze
  • Knockback
  • Knockdown
  • Launch
  • Pull
  • Freeze (Ice Bow #5)
  • Petrify (Basilisk Venom)

“Soft” CCs (reduced movement or action):

  • Chill
  • Cripple
  • Immobilize
  • Slow
  • Blind

 

Finally, don’t forget your noms

Every little edge helps in challenging content.  Bring level 80 food and maintenance buffs for your class and roles.  And keep an eye out for new foods and maintenance buffs in HoT, possibly specifically designed for the raids!

 

Last Edited on: 10/20/2015 at 09:33 AM
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Laoch de na Iolair Dearg
Lakshmi
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Replied On: 09/28/2015 at 06:47 AM PDT
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Something else to consider.   At some point during TwitchCon the devs mentioned we'll have to reroll our Beta characters.  (I don't have the source atm, probably something I saw on reddit.)

Hopefully we get to keep our masteries progress, but maybe not.

BUT this might mean we get a fresh copy of our bank for BWE3.   It's unlikely we'll get mail or TP access (again). but I plan to put some more options for food, buffs, runes and sigils into my bank just in case we get do get a fresh bank.

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Lakshmi
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Replied On: 09/29/2015 at 05:33 AM PDT
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My beta characters poofed today, so that part of the rumor seems to be true.  Guess I'll load my bank up with goodies before the weekend just it case we get a fresh copy of it.

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Gaspara112
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Replied On: 09/29/2015 at 06:54 AM PDT
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Cool, got throw my style kit and some of the black lion items (repair canisters, revive orbs(for exploring not raids), etc. in there. Also going to throw some ascended items in there, having an ascended sword for the raid can only be positive.

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Replied On: 10/01/2015 at 07:04 AM PDT
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WilliamBrandis
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Replied On: 10/21/2015 at 07:18 AM PDT
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Also if people need alternate armor/weapon sets, don't forget you can post requests in the marketplace.  There are a few of us crafters around that will happily make stuff for the guild.  I try to check it daily.  

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Jeff
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Replied On: 10/21/2015 at 04:48 PM PDT

HoT needs to be unlocked for this right?

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Lakshmi
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Replied On: 10/21/2015 at 05:55 PM PDT
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@Jeff -- yes.  The PVE new raids are HoT only.  

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Jace
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Replied On: 10/27/2015 at 10:15 AM PDT

So I run a dragonhunter with soldiers armor and zerker acc. I run a LB/GS combo and basicly use it as a crowd controlling tank.

I LB 5 to crowd control the mobs.. then LB4 my jump location.. I then swap to GS, GS 3 into the group and pop my traps which throws out aegis packs to my party and continues to root the group.. then I GS 5 to start my pull back as the group maybe trying to leaving the target area at this point, I rune first (unless I need to pull first) then pull and GS2 ...

All in all it seems to be a massive dps burst and away to control a group so my party doesn't have to run around and can focus the mobs.

Is this gameplay what we are looking at for a dragonhunter/guardian or am I supposed to be more of a debuff ripper as the class has tons of that.

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Gaspara112
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Replied On: 10/27/2015 at 12:20 PM PDT
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Escaflownae,

 

The trick is that raids could call for many different needs so knowing ways in which your character can be built to fullfil many different roles and solutions to possible problems is the real key to being a good raider. There may be situations where large groups need to be controlled or they ma be just a single boss in which case the AoE control will not provide much and you should switch to something else for that encounter.

 

Versatility in playstyle will likely be a key element to an elite raider in GW2.

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Jace
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Replied On: 10/29/2015 at 06:56 AM PDT

Gaspara, I understand what your saying and i've raided and raid lead alot in other games so i'm fully capable of changing on the fly to suit my environment as I MT in several other games for many many years.

That said GW2 has historically been a class\group role setup meaning that certain classes as used for one or two skills for the group and that's about it. GW1 raids were the exact same. Looking at what they want to do here is not unlikely that guardians will be wanted more for condi removal instead of CC or tanking. 

I was wondering mostly because if we are wanting to do a raid we should consider setting up a team to be as versatile as possible and assigning people to roles. Unless this will be a "who wants to go and what do you do" kind of group.



» Edited on: 2015-10-29 08:44:05

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Lakshmi
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Replied On: 10/29/2015 at 10:06 AM PDT
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Jace, this thread is about general raid preparation advice.  If you are looking for a raid team, so far Soren has organized an event:  http://www.gaiscioch.com/tavern/guildwars_discussion/post_143306.html

If this isn't the type of raid team you'd prefer (too casual, whatever), feel free to start one that's more to your liking.  The more the merrier. :)

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Jace
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Replied On: 10/29/2015 at 02:58 PM PDT

Thanks for that I wasn't sure where this was going.

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