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Marketplace Status Update - Sept 4th

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Foghladha
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Posted On: 09/04/2012 at 08:55 PM
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Hey Everyone,

I know theres been a lot of questions, comments, and opinions about the marketplace over the past week. I have been actively working on trying to resolve some of the big issues we have to face. One of which is the fact that AreanaNet has a few circular items. Meaning that we have a bit of Chicken or the Egg happening. The Marketplace builds it's pricing structure as so.

Raw Material -> Refined Materials -> Composite Materials -> Products

In RIFT this worked fine. But in Guild Wars 2 some Composites are combined with other composites to make new composites that are used to make other composites. Confused yet? So is the script. When it's trying to build the price model it wants Ingrediant A's price, then adds it to Ingrediant B's price to generate a price. But what happens when this said item's price effects another items price which then impacts the very item you just created creating an endless loop.

Needless to say not fun. I have made a few changes that should help streamline the system.

  1.  Send To now uses ArenaNet ID rather than characters when in Guild Wars mode
  2.  Inactivity timers are now based off of membership last login instead of character last login (No GW2 feed so we cant automate this). 
  3.  I have resynced the entire database of item including over 10,000 items between RIFT and GW2.
  4.  I've broken and fixed several things in the process.
  5.  I corrected the button for Add A Recipe to properly show on Rank 3 and provide a message when you are not yet qualified.
  6. I have refunded items that had their point values change so people will need to reorder them.
  7. I have changed the maximum/split sizes on several items to limit the number of 10 x 20 Slot bag requests. Bags can be ordered in Pairs and split into 1 order per 1 bag. This allows more crafters a shot at it.

Now what do we need now?

Over the next week I will be having any crafter that has the recipes and knows how to enter them to put in all recipes for characters under level 30. This should give us a nice foundation that other crafters can pickup and level from there. As they progress new members can enter recipes they've discovered into the system using the Add a New Recipe button they aquire at Artisan Rank 3. Up until now most of our top crafers have avoided putting things into the system so that others can have a chance but it's pretty obvious if they don't give some sort of foundation we wont have many artisan point weilding items requested.

Remember....

In RIFT it took 6 months to get the marketplace to list all of the items available. It has gone through 4 entire complete overhauls and has had it's values shifted constantly. The marketplace we have today was installed a year and  a half after RIFT's launch. The same time that we started working closely with the ArenaNet team.

There will be hangups, there will be disconnects, there will be issues. I've spent the last 9 months preparing the Marketplace for Guild Wars 2 and even still there are issues appearing I did not accomidate for.

I will continue to try to resolve them as they appear but I need you all to please step back and realize that NO OTHER GUILD/FAMILY has this marketplace. Gaiscioch is NOT my full time job, it does not pay the bills, and it costs me around $10,000 a year to maintain. I can not afford to commit every hour of every day to it. I need everyone to please be patient and know that I will continue to improve it as I have time. 

Coming at me and telling me how broke the marketplace is, saying it's stupid, or any other nagging or snyd remark will not go over so well. I am doing my best and I'd really appreciate it if you keep the negativity to yourself. If you find an issue with the marketplace post it in the help desk and i'll get to it when i can. If your just learning how to put reciepes in please see Izmina or Lakshmi for guidance.

Just be patient and know im working to make it better.

Thanks for understanding.

 

Fog



» Edited on: 2012-09-04 21:56:02

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Fili de na Arach Dearg
Donaliam
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Replied On: 09/05/2012 at 12:51 AM PDT
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Thank you Fog for the hard work.

"Try Not. Do or Do Not, there is no try. " Yoda, Jedi Master
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Hex
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Replied On: 09/05/2012 at 02:20 AM PDT

Thanks Ben, if you need me to enter anything just send me a forum pm. Happy to help out.

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Briseadh
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Replied On: 09/05/2012 at 03:16 AM PDT
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You can also ask me how to input recipes since I've done a lot with it, as well. I have four crafts started, all only T1 or T2 and I'm one of those people who was waiting just to see how adding recipes was going to workout for others. I definitely do not need the points, but to help out I will be putting them in by the end of the weekend. You'll find me on Raidcall and in the first Gaiscioch guild if you have questions.

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Twilah
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Replied On: 09/05/2012 at 09:30 AM PDT
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Thank you Fog! I filled a few orders this week and just now realized I mailed them to the name listed here on the website *duh* I'll follow up and refill the orders if necessary...that should have clicked in my brain at the time. If you need help with artisan leatherworking, huntsman or jeweler recipes I have some discoveries. I'm not using guides though so my data is not *everything* I'm sure, but I have some shinies :)

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Yankee
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Replied On: 09/05/2012 at 10:38 AM PDT

Fog, you are an extremely smart fellow. Thanks

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Maena
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Replied On: 09/05/2012 at 10:44 AM PDT

Hello! Just a quick question regarding adding recipes. I tried to add some (as a level 4 crafter) however when I clicked the button, it just refreshed the marketplace page. Should I be doing something else? It was the 'add a recipe' button. Thank you for all of your hard work!

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 09/05/2012 at 10:57 AM PDT
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Mae, try logging out then relogging without autofill. See if that helps.

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Narco
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Replied On: 09/05/2012 at 11:31 AM PDT
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Thank you for explaining how the script works and the complications GW2 presents. That makes so much sense now. Also, if you need some grunt work inputting data, just holler. I used to do something similar for Curse.

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