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Something is wrong with the pricing model

Seaimpin de na Capall Gorm
Rescorla
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Posted On: 12/23/2012 at 11:38 AM

I'm a RC so while looking for possible orders to fill I have noticed that the artisan points awarded as well as the amount of Family Vault Credits needed to purchase identical items is not equal.

For example, right now there are two requests for Auroral Hardy Runes, one costing 759 points and the other 773.  The Empyrean Rage Runeshard costs are all different as well.

On that same note, why do blue augments for the various tradeskills cost more to purchase than the higher quality purple augments? For example, a blue quality Empyrean Keen augment costs 1515 points while the much better purple quality Stellar Keen augment only costs 1428.  

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Taoiseach de na Arach Glas
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Replied On: 12/23/2012 at 11:48 AM PST
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It is working as intended. The mp is designed to be a teat of ones wilingness to sacrifice personal gain for family needs. Theres a slight loss. Also remember its artisan + contribution = family vault credits.

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Replied On: 12/23/2012 at 11:50 AM PST
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Also values are based off the cost of the mats required to make. Most likely the blue uses more materials than the purple.

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Ban Caomhnoir de na Iomproidh Dearg
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Replied On: 12/24/2012 at 05:59 AM PST

The longer an order has been waiting to fill, the more points it is worth. This is why some of the same items are worth different amounts.

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Tiarna de na Aracos Buí
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Replied On: 12/24/2012 at 09:09 AM PST

The new Empyrean (blue) augments use different materials than the new Stellar (purple) level augments in their recipes. So the pricing comes out like it does, its really a matter of how Trion designed the recipe. I imagine this may lead to Empyrean level augments not getting ordered in favor of lower priced Stellars. However, you may find that the rarer nature of the purple salvage materials required for the Stellar augments might cause longer delay times in filling of orders for the them as opposed to the Empyrean blues.

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Seaimpin de na Capall Gorm
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Replied On: 12/24/2012 at 12:27 PM PST

@Sri That explains the discrepancy in points awarded. I was not aware that the longer a request was active the more points artisans gained for fulfilling the request. @Naay I hear what you are saying but it just seems counter intuitive that the materials to make blue augments would cost more than the materials to make an epic quality augment.

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Replied On: 12/24/2012 at 01:01 PM PST
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Let's break it down into math:

Empyrean Fanatical Augment - Blue
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14 x Wooden Boards @ 54 FVC Each = 756 FVC
6  x Gemstone Remnants @ 54 FVC Each = 324 FVC
6  x Anhydrous Polishing Agent @ 16 FVC Each = 96 FVC
2  x Empyrean Planar Dust @ 18 FVC Each = 36 FVC
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Total Cost For Materials: 1,212 FVC
             Crafter Fee: 25%
             Total Price: 1,515 FVC
Stellar Fanatical Augment - Purple
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8  x Anhydrous Polishing Agent @ 16 FVC Each = 128 FVC
3  x Empyrean Planar Dust @ 18 FVC Each = 54 FVC
5  x Treated Wooden Boards @ 120 FVC Each = 600 FVC
3  x Flawless Gemstone Remnants @ 120 FVC Each = 360 FVC
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Total Cost For Materials: 1,142 FVC
             Crafter Fee: 25%
             Total Price: 1,428 FVC (1427.5 rounded up)

The blue version uses more materials and thus has a higher cost. This isn't a marketplace problem this is a Game System design problem. When and If Trion fixes it the prices will be more in line but right now the cost to make the blue is more expensive to the crafter than it is to make the Purple.

» Edited on: 2012-12-24 13:01:59

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Replied On: 12/24/2012 at 01:15 PM PST

I expect there are probably also notches in the price curve regarding potions. Trion didn't make all the recipes follow a nice clean price curve.

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