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Anyone seen this thread regarding our server?

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Posted On: 09/24/2012 at 03:30 PM
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Ridire de na Faolchu
Toarr
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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 04:04 PM PDT

Yeah, they were being pretty unreasonable. The claim that it's our entire server's fault and that nobody on their server ever cheated ever made me laugh though lol. Most everyone called the OP on it and even ANet claimed it was unfair when they closed the thread. I guess the way I look at it is that in a game this size, that's as new as it is, there's a ton of stuff that still needs to be ironed out. There will always be cheaters and hacks and in a situation like this its just that someone on SoR found them before someone on SF did. I know for a fact ANet has a ton of feedback on WvW and I have no doubt they'll get it working as soon as they can. Best thing we can do is report cheats/hacks when we see them, regardless of what server they're on.

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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 04:10 PM PDT

Seems like the obvious question would be: if people are flying around one shotting keep lords and players and everything else why don't we own the whole map? Or at least more than about 1/3 of it? The mesmer portal thing I wouldn't consider an exploit unless they come out and say it is. It would be easy enough for them to disable the spell in WvW if they didn't intend for it to be used. I think leaving enemies hiding in your keep after a breach is supposed to be dangerous.

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Saighdiuir de na Capall
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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 04:18 PM PDT
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I've never personally witnessed any of these cheats or exploits but I was thinking the same thing as many of the posters in that thread: If I saw an obvious cheat, I'd report them. But it just occurred to me: How do you report individual players in WvW? Everyone's name is masked. Maybe there's a reporting feature I haven't stumbled across, but when reporting it's probably a good idea to take note of the exact time and location if it's not obvious in a screenshot.

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Ridire de na Faolchu
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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 04:19 PM PDT

Yeah that got me too. They have pictures of us on the wall and on the ground and that's about it. I see one screen with a mesmer portal, but I agree that that isn't an exploit. Like you said, if we were so blatantly hacking, we wouldn't be fighting so hard to own what we do.

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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 04:47 PM PDT
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Personally, I suspect it was just simply a case of a small organised group hiding a Mesmer away within the objective and porting his friends inside to take out the Lord after the enemy had left (Mesmer hides away inside the tower, drops one end of his portal inside, then jumps outside and drops the second end of his portal outside where his mates can reach it to port in). All the specific objectives mentioned in the thread are towers, which are prime for this tactic, as there isn't a second wall to overcome once the Mesmer has got his team mates past the first. Keeps could likewise be a small team taking down a wall with a couple of catapaults so that they don't trigger an orange crossed swords icon to alert the enemy of their attack until it's too late. Given the wild over-reactive accusations of the entire server being in on it and his own entire server never doing anything underhanded, it's hard to give credence to his claims of flying over walls and 1-shotting Keep Lords. More likely he doesn't understand the tactics in play against him, and rather than try to figure out how the enemy are taking objectives from him (from right under his nose, or in this case directly over top of it, it would seem), he'd rather just publicly accuse an entire server of hacking. That said, it's worth being vigilant and not dismissing these things outright. If there are hacks or exploits in play, it's in everyone's best interests to find and report them.

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Taoiseach de na Arach Glas
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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 04:47 PM PDT
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it's a troll guys. Don't feed the trolls :)

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Caomhnoir de na Fhiaigh Corcra
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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 04:49 PM PDT

The thread has been locked because it is trolling. It is aimed at the SIN guild (who the screenshots are of) and 3 or 4 other random pugs. Elthurien responded very well on our behalf and the accusations were in a small part fair, but mostly ridiculous. For example, banning a whole server due to one or two people. I thought the guy who wrote it was an idiot...he did not provide ss's of the flying hack, which from what I read was the only thing of concern in the post, but the only thing where no evidence was provided. My advice is that if you see a possible exploit, whether it be from our adversaries, or our own team, report it to the exploits email on the official GW2 forums, and include screenshots as proof. Donlt go publicly trolling, just stick to the procedure A-net has in place.

» Edited on: 2012-09-24 16:51:49

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Ridire de na Faolchu
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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 04:53 PM PDT

In related news, I just stumbled across this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/10f0te/www_exploit_spies_using_up_supplies_sor_vs_sf_vs/

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Ridire de na Ulchabhan
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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 05:07 PM PDT
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I read all this. There was no hacking what so ever. No proof of anything. I bet they screwed up in the keeps. organized attacks is what helps. They dont see that.

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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 06:24 PM PDT
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God forbid someone beat you. Age old statement in any pvp game or sport. The other team always cheated because they win.

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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 07:25 PM PDT

Per Dargron: "(Mesmer hides away inside the tower, drops one end of his portal inside, then jumps outside and drops the second end of his portal outside where his mates can reach it to port in)" Well harrumph. I started work on a Mesmer to do exactly this sort of thing! Since nobody needs healer/buffers any more. And everyone's a rezzer. Put me out of a job.

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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 09:15 PM PDT
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My favorite parts are the ones with people qq'ing about Mesmer's using portals. How dare someone use their abilities as intended to win ;)

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Saighdiuir de na Faolchu
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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 09:42 PM PDT

I'm torn on the Portal thing. It doesn't always seem 100% copacetic that you can bypass a keep's defenses with a single ability, but at the same time it takes guts and coordination to pull it off, and you must have broken through at least once legitimately to get the Mesmer in there in the first place. I'll be using it until I hear otherwise in any event.

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Replied On: 09/24/2012 at 09:43 PM PDT
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This just in! Mesmer too op! We'll have film at 11!

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Replied On: 09/25/2012 at 02:47 AM PDT
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There was a second thread this evening which I kindly replied and then reported to the moderators. I'll control myself next time and just report it. I do tend to enjoy killing trolls with kindness though especially when our server and guild are accused. As far as I know, the only time I've seen our mesmers portal our guys into the keep is when we busted down their wall and used the portal to get the remaining force inside after they repaired it. No harm no foul.

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Saighdiuir de na Capall
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Replied On: 09/25/2012 at 06:14 AM PDT

I saw that too. I can't remember if it was that thread or another similar thread about flying nuns and stuff, but someone mentioned mesmers were able to place the portal on the edge of the wall from outside and get in that way. Now if that is true that doesn't seem like it would be an intended use of the spell. As far as hiding a mesmer after already having taken the keep earlier I guess that seems fair. It's not like you can log out a mesmer on a second account in each keep and then log them back into the keep.

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Replied On: 09/25/2012 at 06:19 AM PDT
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What exactly am I supposed to be seeing in these screenshots? lol, theres no proof of anything.

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Replied On: 09/25/2012 at 08:07 AM PDT
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It's worth pointing out that, while he's obviously frustrated at losing, and has no proof to speak of, he's not completely wrong. The hacking community is alive and well in GW2. Currently, there is no client-side tamper detection, and precious little server-side, and people are taking advantage of that. I reported one person for blowing past me at several times the normal run speed, and another for bouncing around like he was in lunar gravity. There are numerous proofs of concept out there for teleports, noclips, and flying. While it's silly to think that an entire server is involved, it would be a little naive to assume that it's not happening at all. Keep your eyes peeled, and report anything that looks too out of place.

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