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What I Wish I Knew Before Level 10

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JohnFalstaf
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Posted On: 03/24/2015 at 07:11 AM
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Hello Experienced ESOL Players!

I just bought ESOL now that the monthly fee is gone. I'm sure there are other family members doing the same thing.

I have a request:

Would some kind family member, with experience in ESOL, mind publishing a short guide for newbies:

"What I Wish I Knew Before Level 10"

This would be a great help.

Thanks in advance!

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Jairone
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Hmmm...

Crafting.  Including deconstruction vs. sale of items.  *Deconstruct gets almost as much money as just selling, and you level crafting without really working on it much.*
The new interface for collections and how to set pets/horses as active.  *Default 'U' with mouse over and 'E' to set active.*
Travel to player.  *Party or guild right click option.*
Thieving is $.  *Great money at low level.*
Pack vendor.  *One in every main zone city/town.*
Achievements in the journal.  *Hints for skyshards, titles, etc.  May be less helpful if using addons.*
Addons, and how to install them.  *I haven't bothered, so somebody else could discuss this...

*Just a listing of what I can think of that would belong in this guide.*



» Edited on: 2015-03-24 08:45:23

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AlanM
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Replied On: 03/24/2015 at 08:36 AM PDT

I would say early on dont waste money on gear.  Save it for inventory space and use whatever drops you find.  

If you can afford it feed your horse every day.

Dont be afraid to ask questions in guild chat.  Lots of people are happy to answer.

 

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Replied On: 03/24/2015 at 09:18 AM PDT

Applying skill points early on within your crafting trees can and will limit your skill set as you progress in lower levels. If you are crafting to be self sufficient it is much easier early on to ask family members for help and save those points for skills needed for questing and surviving. There are a bunch of crafters from every profession whom will have no problem helping you out, and you can still do your part by collecting the raw materials needed as you move thru an area as it is level specific. New equipment is great and can give you an edge... but, it is not required every 2 levels under level 16. I would say about every 4. 

Do not repair gear under level 10, swap it with new drops. Wastes gold due to outlevelling gear too quickly.

If you can get in on any Cyrodiil cave runs after level 10. Cyrodiil mobs drop level specific loot and it is generally going to be lots of greens, a few blues and the occasional purple quality item from the dungeon bosses. Each dungeon/delve will also contain a skyshard to further your skill point pool.

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Don't make the mistake of just leveling one toon. Considering the amount of time it takes to level a toon in ESO, you want to make sure you are playing the best class for your playstyle. I basically stopped playing 2 months after launch because I was so unhappy with my templar and was not willing to put in the hours to level another toon up to V12. 

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Skyshards and travel to player are definitely two major ones.

 

Also I found keeping it to two professions while leveling allowed me to experiment with crafting and make some gold. But also left me with enough skill points to be useful and effective in combat.

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Read all the bookshelves - at lower levels you get free skillups on class, weapons, and crafting at random times as you run across them.  Every book you read will be readable again once you have your Eidetic memory at the end of the chaing of Mage Guild quests.

Find all the lore books - glowing blue books.  These level your mage guild and other than quests for mage guild, there is not much else that will level it.

Your solo only quests - Main Story, Mage and Fighter guilds - will always be at the level you are at no matter when you decide to go in.  You will never get help here, so go prepared.

Remember food buffs are GOOD!  If you don't have food ask for some.  Someone in the guild can probably make it.  I know I can make a lot of food - have stock piles of mats and currently 189 recipes.  At the low level of up to 10 even the white food you manage to search or steal out of a crate, dresser, barrel, wardrobe, etc is worth using for a boost.

For addons, get Minion.  It's the easiest way to download and add them, even though I have to admit I do it directly since I only use a few myself.  I should get off my duff and get it running just to save the update headache.  Two really useful ones are Skyshards and Lorebooks.  This marks where they all are on your map so you don't have to hunt for them.  Though if you like to really explore on your first toon through, maybe skip them and then add to see what you missed.  =)

That is my addition to the list =)  Again, ask away in guild chat or on Raidcall.  We will gladly help.

 

Don't mess with Mama Bear, I might hug you too tight. =D
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Replied On: 03/24/2015 at 10:01 AM PDT
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Wow! Great advice so far! Thank you.

BTW, how to I get into the guild on ESOL?

Thanks!

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AlanM
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Replied On: 03/24/2015 at 10:39 AM PDT

If you message a member in game I believe we all have the ability to invite.  

Another nice addon is destinations.   I also like one that i think is just called "bank stacker"  puts any mats you have into stacks you already have in your bank but doesnt start new stacks.

Really there are a ton of nice addons I probably use about 10-15 of em.  I get them from esoui but I did download minion and it lets me auto update them (possibly not all, I am not sure but many have been updating)

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I honestly wish i knew how Valuable almost every item picked up in the game was before i was level 10, I'd be sitting on a gold mine probably! xD

 

But, noooooo, i looked at a lot of items as an inconvenience to my inventory space, and treated them like NPC fodder. 

 

So in hindsight, do not make my same mistakes and assume something without an actual gold-value in the tool-tip is worthless, because at this point, 99.9% of EVERY item is valuable.

 

So i guess "Patience" is the word of the day here. xD



» Edited on: 2015-03-24 13:17:03

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^ True, if you are somebody who bothers with that.

I tend to find that most themepark games give me so little use for gold that I end up having tons of it just sitting around.  I buy things like bag space and such, but little else much of the time.  So, given that it doesn't really make a difference how valuable something might be (I horde and help people in the family, but not to sell) I wouldn't care.

Great advice for those who DO care about money in game, however!

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Skill points:

-For every 3 skyshards, you get a skill point.  There are 16 skyshards per zone, except in the starter areas (bleakrock isle, betnik, bal foyen, etc). So that is an easy 5 skill points in every zone.

- Public Dungeon Group bosses give out 1 skill point.

- Main quest segments all give out 1 skill point.

- Undaunted dungeons all give out 1 skill point on the first completed quest run.

- You get 1 skill point every time you level up.

(*So for example, by the time you complete Stonefalls (and the starter areas of bleakrock and bal foyen), you could be sitting on a whopping 25 skill points and more, depending how much of a completionist you wish to be)

Attribute points AND skill points can both be reset, by going in the bank building of Mournhold (in Deshaan (the zone right after Stonefall)). It will cost gold but will allow you to re-distribute your points from scratch OR to re-select your skill morphs only, if you wish. So again, it comes back to: THERE IS NO WRONG WAY to play your character:). Play as you wish and tweak it as you go, to give the result you are looking for.

I find that too many players attempt to emulate what other players (usually getting good results with their built and play style) are doing, and although it CAN help you in your journey, it can also sometimes draw you away from the way YOU like to play, which in the end, will affect negatively your Gaming time and experience.  Always remember: Play the way you want to play:).

Attribute points:

Note that it is always possible to boost any stat with enchantment (glyphs that increase your magicka, health or stamina pool and can be applied to any armor, jewelry and weapons), the trait stone that is attached to the armor or weapon piece, also makes a difference.  Infused, for example, will boost the enchantments you put on your armor pieces. Divine will increase the bonus you receive from mondus stones, etc.

Head, Chest and Legs will always give a "bigger" enchantment boost.  

Food is an easy buff and is easy to get, especially with nice guildies.  Use it to boost your stats. (I personally choose blue food that boost my health and the stat I use the most, depending on my character.)

Potions are worth it.  Drop potions are plenty  to come by and enough when exploring and doing generic quests, crafted potions can really help boost your stats when doing dungeons, main questing, pvp, or simply to help your character whenever needed.

Leveling:

Do NOT try to follow others, in their rate of leveling. You could find it to be very frustrating and futile.  Play the way you want to play.  If you wish to have a boost on the rate at which you level, especially at lower levels, ask a nice guildie to craft you a simple set of exploration gears, and weapons with a training trait stone.  It gives a nice little boost and doesn't change to your general playing experience.

***Equip whatever skill, weapons and armor you wish to level, whenever turning in a quest.  

What I mean is: Lets say you are questing with a full set of light armor, a destro staff and a few favorite skills.  When you turn in quest, you could equip pieces of heavy armor (if you wish to level that), dual wield (or whatever other weapon you wish to level up) and put skills that you are using a bit less.  It doesn't matter if you arent using them at all. It will get a boost from having them equipped when turning in your quest.  You can then, re-equip your questing stuff.

Friendly advice: Level up the resto staff (even if only passively).  It's worth it to have in your arsenal of possibilities, especially at higher level and it can do more than a decent job healing a group, with a little bit of practice and the skill points spent in the tree line.

***World bosses, dolmen and public dungeons are meant to be done with other players. (Although it can be with people that happen to be in area at same time as you (meaning it does not need to always be organized)

Wow, I could keep on rambling on about a hundred things right now... but yeah, ill save you from that ehhe. Just don't hesitate to ask guildies any and all questions you may have. Chances are, if you are thinking it, someone else most likely is too, AND someone else probably found out the answer through their playing journey and will be able to answer you.

Lastly, we do have Zone map clearances groups roughly 3 times a week, plus dungeons run and pvp events. Join in when you can, gives you xp, answers tons of questions and allows you to see the perspective of playing around others that may have the same class as you and what not.

Have fun! and looking forward to see you in game.

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Replied On: 03/24/2015 at 04:25 PM PDT

i can only say that all the above apply.  The important one though is if you need advise ASK we don't bite much, unless you want to try out as a Werewolf or Vampire then we have lots of fellow family members that are keen to give you a nibble.

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Forget about the trinity, i.e. Tank, Healer, Dps. Yes there are basically the same archetypes in ESO, but that doesn't mean you have to adhere to them. I have a heavy armor, 2-hand sword sorc. Simply because I can. Try different mixes and matches to see what you like. Dual wield Templar, Dps nightblade. Why not? Find what you like and do it.

Find all skyshards, world bosses and dolmens in each zone. It will help skill point wise and xp wise. Find as many lore books as you can. Don't forget to feed your horse.

This game is stingy with the loot for a good bit, don't obsess over gear at low levels.

The first 5 skill points you spend should be on the first skill in each skill line of your class and the first mage and fighters guild skills. Just put all 3 class skills on you bar and they will level up, This will help you decide what you like and open up passives in each respective line. And the fighters and mages skills help out in quest a lot.

Unless you have your heart set and your 2nd weapon bar, use a regeneration staff. Only get the first ability to use in groups for extra heals. You can use this bar to put utility abilities like purge or rapid maneuvers on.

If you have 1 piece of armor of any kind (heavy, medium or light) on it will level. This is good for latter on if you want to swap from being a caster to a dual wielder etc etc.

Don't worry about running out of skill points. By the time your level 50 you will have more then you can spend.

Ask as many questions in guild chat as you need to. This may be the most helpful group of people you will ever find. 

 

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Replied On: 03/25/2015 at 03:49 AM PDT

I agree that you dont have to worry about the trinity wile doing solo and lower level group content but when you get to max level if you want to do the vet dungeons and trials at that point the trinity is in full effect and if you try not to use it at that point you are gonna have a rough time.  The mages and fightres guild dont level up by having a skill on the bar like the class skills do so I would not necessarily make them an early priority unless you want to use the skill but I would try to keep at least one skill from each class tree on your bar early on to level them up.  Mixing armor types for leveling purposes is a good idea too until later when you start putting points into armor passives then you will probably want to go with at least 5 pieces of your main armor type.

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 As stated in the post "What I wish I knew before level 10". Therefore any and all information I gave was for low levels only, not max level. We could have that discussion forever. The 2 skills from mages and fighters guild are intimidating presence and persuasive will. They do not go on the ability bar but help make questing faster. The armor suggestion was for low levels as well, as an easy way to gain levels in al armor types before you decide what exactly you would like to be doing with your character.

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MEMBERS ARE NOT TO INVITE VIA MESSAGES IN GAME!  

Here's how it works.  Make sure you gaming profile states you are playing ESO, that your @name is in the profile correctly and ask for an invite through the webpage.

Anyone wanting an invite must join the website and fill out this information and when it is in correct there is this cool little thing that tells us elders and commanders designated with invite rights to add this person.  =)

 EDIT: 

Just verified that JohnFalstaff needs to add his @name to his gaming profile tab and state that he is playing ESO.  Right now there is nothing indicating he is.  You can correct this by going into edit profile and then in the gaming tab sroll down to enter the @name in the box for ESO username.  =)  Once you have the profile updated with the @name, click to request an invite.  Then one of us approved inviters can do so.  =)  If you have any questions about how to update this, hop on Raidcall and ask an elder.



» Edited on: 2015-03-25 08:13:03

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When you start a new character, use every weapon at least once for a kill, it will then level them up passively.  Also wear one piece of armor type, such as light, medium, heavy,  once opened they will level passively as well.  This was important for me, when I went to kill Molag Bal, I needed to use a Resto staff.  I had not used one but did have enough points to get skill I needed to complete story line and go to Veteran Level.

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John,

you need to add your eso id  to your profile and click join chapter on the homepage. Additionally see http://gsch.info/eso  for pictures and details

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I was not told of this change Verve, so it is based on what I know.  It isn't my fault I rather be eating dinner rather than be at the monthly meetings to learn this stuff and there is nothing in writing to me.  ::chuckles::  So I go with what I know and Fog will tell me different.  



» Edited on: 2015-03-29 05:18:35

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Thanks for all the great advice! :-)

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