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Power Supply Issues - Might not be able to run events, but will try too. Advise

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Ravenwood
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Posted On: 05/06/2014 at 05:54 AM
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This is commander Balor Gorgon of the Guild Wars 2 side but placed here for open advise.

 

Due to something beyond my understand my unit powers down when I run Raidcall, Chrome, Winamp, Guild Wars 2 and about after 45 mins- 60 mins.

 

I plan on trying to get a new one but til then I will try to run events but if I go offline the followers atleast within Gaischioch will know why.

Please bare with me and if anyone has advise to may how to check a power supply that would be grand.

 

Other then that game on and hope to see you all around.

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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 06:16 AM PDT
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Did you clean out the cooling ribs in your computer lately?  The computer will shutdown if it overheats.

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I am in raidcall Booie ( Balor.8405 ) I am not understand the terms but I did open case today, and clean with a air can but beyond that I am not understanding.

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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 07:57 AM PDT
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Does the PC shutdown (as in log out your user and shuts down the PC) or down it just die (just like the power just went out in your house). Regardless do check your cooling. Also the Powersupply has a fan that should be blowing out of the back while is use. Preform all cleaning while the PC is off. Take a can of air and clean the powersupply out good and make sure your CPU cooler is pretty clean too. This could also be a memory (RAM) issue, but these are rare and it is generally not the issue if it's not blue screening. 



» Edited on: 2014-05-06 07:59:55

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I ran a ram test yesterday those checked out as fine and the issue happens as I'm running as I stated about those 4 programs @ once and then out of no where boom ( full power shut down as if I've lost power in my house but only pc wise )

 

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It sounds like overheating of some sort. Can of air time.

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since 9am EST today I've been running just Raidcall, Chrome, and Guild Wars 2 with no problems so at the moment thats been 2 hours of solid usage without any issues but that is also the fact that I did clean out my unit's dust before 9am est.

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Current Temps from a program

 

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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 08:10 AM PDT
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I'm at work at the moment, but as pookha said, get a can of electronics duster (canned air)

  1. Take you computer somewhere that you don't mind dust and dust bunnies all over the place.
  2. open the case
  3. blow out all cooling ribs and don't forget graphics card and power supply
  4. Close the case and plug the wires in again.

This is a good idea for everyone to do on a regular basis.

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thanks guys and what he did in the video is what I have done this morning.

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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 08:26 AM PDT
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Better than cans of air, and only if you actually have one, a Shop Vac on reverse works wonders! Boy oh boy can our computers get dust filled!!

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Those temps are just fine if your PC was under a load, but if those are idle temps you may still have some cooling issues. Also some good tips would be to never sit your PC directly on the floor. get a little stand that keeps it at least 2 or 3 inches off the floor or put is on your desk. Also keep your PC in a open area for good airflow, not tucked away in some desk cabinet. I don't know if anything of these things describe your setup, but they are good practices.

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Current Setup as of right now

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Fan1 show >5000 rpm, I assume that it is your CPU fan.  Could verify that it is running?

If is running, then make sure that all the dust is out of the ribs in the heatsink.

If it is not running when it shows that it should be, then turn of your computer off and buy a new CPU fan/heatsink kit.  (After you verify that the fan is correctly plugged in)

I'm asking this because >5000 rpm is very high and indicates that it cannot cool the component that it should.

Also from the picture, your case supports more fans than what the program indicated that was plugged in.  You should look into getting an additional 120mm case fan to help move the hot air out.



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» Edited on: 2014-05-06 13:15:21

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This is after running a 3 hours stress test with Prime95 and only 5 mins after the Prime95 test being stopped.

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Are you sure all of your fans are working? Looking at the diagnostic program you're running, it appears you have 3 fans working hard and 6 fans not doing anything. Now that may just be that you have only 3 fans installed, and the other 6 slots are empty, but if you DO have more than 3 fans, make sure they work. If you have non-operating fans that would contribute to a temperature buildup in your case.

If you only have 3 fans, then I would agree with Booie that you could install a couple more fans. A little googling for your case would yield some suggestions I think.

 

Your graphics card is also very hot. Now that's not necessarily a problem, since GPUs do run hot, but is there any way you can increase the ventilation to that card? Like move any cards that are next to it to a different slot?

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I have checked all fans are plugged in since 4 are neon green lights and the back one is a non light fan

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Both World Vs World events with all stuff running was fine after lite dust removal and highest temp was 69C ^_^ and system never shut down.

 

Hoped everyone had fun at both events.

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Neon lights being on means nothing.  You need to make sure that the fan blades are actually spinning on all of the fans, the most important fan is the one on your CPU.  Next important is the fan on the video card, make sure that its spinning, too.

It doesn't sound like PSU problems, your voltages look good, its just overheating.

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Replied On: 05/07/2014 at 08:02 AM PDT

Your temps are fine now. Modern cpu's are able to handle up to 70-80c's very well. Now 80c is the highest I'd allow it to get. After that you have to repaste and consider alternative cooling but your fine.

GPU's are able to run much hotter and can last longer at higher temps. 90c's is the highest i'd allow a gpu to get. Yet your fine in this category as well.

HDD's are a bit hot but they can take higher temps as well and are not a concern at your level. If it's a SDD then consider a fan to cool it. If it's a standard HDD then just let it be.

Fan1 and Fan5 seems to be system board installed fans that are running slow. This could be that you just stopped the program and they are winding down to a system profile "quite " mode.

You can try to enter bios and verify that you have your fans listed in performance mode that should help you out when you need it.

Also, when setting up your fans it is always better to exhaust than to intake. When placing fans around your case make sure your front panel is "intake" air and your back and mid fans "exhaust" this allows streamline flow and more surface air for your internals to cool.

Alternative Cooling:

Some pointers here are if you want to further reduce your heat, then buy heatsinks and coolers with more copper built in to them. The higher the copper count generally the better it is at cooling. Aluminium is fine as long as you have a good copper base, IE Copper->Aluminium alloy.

Water cooling is another good way to reduce your internal heat but remember you are not eliminatiing heat. You are just transferring it from one place to another. That is all a heatsink is anyway it transfers the heat from the cpu to the heatsink fins which allows the air flow to cool those fins quicker than the actual unit creating the heat.

There are several "closed" units for water cooling Corsair has several of these, do research on "h60" and "h70". These will absolutely reduce heat in the summer and keep you running very well in graphically intense moments.

If you are brave I can walk you thru topics like Peltier and Phase cooling but thats for another post.

Hit me up if you have any questions.

TL;DR 

Your fine now if those last temps are what you are consistently getting. 



» Edited on: 2014-05-07 08:04:00

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