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HOPESFIRE ...100% ruined...

Fine de na Faolchu
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Posted On: 04/16/2014 at 11:50 PM

  here is info ( facts mind you) that most I do not think know yet.  3-4 guilds of  AD and DC all formed 2 guilds. one for blue one for yellow.  ( same guild ) they  are teamed in Hopesfire getting and passing keeps and scrolls   getting emperor and passing emperor.  they do not of course fight eachother. After we took a few keeps last night about 35 Gsch members and 25 others.  the Ad and DC came  on together an took them all back in a joint effort.  I watched, talked to a few people.  got a lot of this sad info and  then I made a toon on my friends account who is not in our guild and on DC.  I went an talked to a few of them.  I do not know what exact impack this will do or have to campaign or us..  but it really sucks. thought I would share the info.

Last Edited on: 04/17/2014 at 12:06 AM
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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 12:07 AM PDT
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I hardly think this warrants 100% ruined. Pitched battle is what we're looking for in the first place. I look forward to making an introduction to them.

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 12:10 AM PDT
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No need to worry, we love a good challenge.

We'll definitely show them how we fight and how much it will hurt.

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 12:30 AM PDT

I guess it is not the challenge part I meant by ruined.  but the... integrity of the AvA in general.  but them  giving up  and retakeing eachothers keeps and scrolls  and passing emperor around seems to be a big deal. IDK maybe it matters none. just seems it would off set many things to me.

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 01:37 AM PDT
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It would not worry about it, this has been what we wanted form the get go, I would call our home ruined if it stayed all red for a month straight or something wacky like that, we as a family have been fielding zergs since pre-launch, this is quite honestly the only way we could pose a threat to us, plus the the rest of the EB on the server arnt exactly pushovers either lol. Keep the faith, we will keep fighting,an now so will they, it will be much more fun in the end. But just remember if you have ever rode around in  a group of 104 taking everything that is to be taken...YOU BOUGHT THIS MADNESS ON US!!!!!

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Mickey
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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 03:18 AM PDT

It makes sense for the less dominant factions to ally against the larger threat. It's expected and hopefully provides a challenge. AvA has been pretty barren while we were dominating. Hopefully now we can get regular groups on our home campaign and really cause some mischief. 

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 03:34 AM PDT
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This is awesome, we are no longer in a push-over campaign.

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 04:03 AM PDT

I'm flattered,  we made them crap their pants so bad they had to band together to stop us.  Let's show them just how much a real war hurts.  The way I see it is we have more targets now.   Time to make the rivers run red :)



» Edited on: 2014-04-17 04:04:04

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 05:27 AM PDT
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Their alliance will crack when put under pressure. In the meantime we have some action finally.

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 05:53 AM PDT

I dont think its ruined.  Now there will be some action in our home.  I guested by last two Cyrodill runs due to Hopesfire being all red most the time.

 

Time to head back home and jump in the mosh pit.

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 06:20 AM PDT
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So, this means we'll have something to take back? Finally!

 

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 06:34 AM PDT
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"I look forward to making an introduction to them." - Foghladha. 

 

Hell Ya!

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 06:49 AM PDT

Not ruined by any means. Bring em on, I say.

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 07:26 AM PDT

ill take the opposite viewpoint, hopesfire has finally been saved, this is gonna be amazing fun battling 2 alliances at once!

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 08:02 AM PDT
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Ooooooh I want in on the next Hopesfire sounds like a good time. 

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 08:15 AM PDT
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Time to have a party!! Fill up your soul gems, buy all the siege gear you can with the points gathered on foreign soil and get ready to RUMBLE! Ha! As Fog said... Lets make our introductions, and lets make them loud!

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  O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth,    
  That I am meek and gentle with these butchers!
  Thou art the ruins of the noblest man  
  That ever lived in the tide of times.  
  Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood!  
  Over thy wounds now do I prophesy,--    
  Which, like dumb mouths, do ope their ruby lips,
  To beg the voice and utterance of my tongue--  
  A curse shall light upon the limbs of men;  
  Domestic fury and fierce civil strife  
  Shall cumber all the parts of Italy;    
  Blood and destruction shall be so in use
  And dreadful objects so familiar  
  That mothers shall but smile when they behold  
  Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;  
  All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:    
  And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
  With Ate by his side come hot from hell,  
  Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice  
  Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;  
  That this foul deed shall smell above the earth    
  With carrion men, groaning for burial.

 

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 09:55 AM PDT
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Just think after last weekend...several were asking if Gaiscioch should switch battles. Well Fog's idea of staying off Hopesfire worked as I think he intended.  However, I did like the scroll bonuses in pve :-) I think our leadership has a good grasp on things. I look forward to join you all as we work to retake Hopesfire!!!



» Edited on: 2014-04-17 11:39:36

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 10:12 AM PDT
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I think it would take the combined efforts of AD/DC to give GSCH a fight, we're really too tactical for disorganized rabble.  We need our enemies to coordinate and form up like we do, that in itself would help a lot, but frankly we also have huge numbers so it will likely take both factions to get more even numbers.  Personally I think it's good news that they are starting to 'think' about what they are facing and do something about it.  It means they have fight in them!

In other news, I enjoy the whole 1-800-rent-a-Tuatha thing :P

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 10:40 AM PDT
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I agree that it looks like it should be interesting - the only downside for me is that, as a Brit member of the family, most of the AvA events start too late for me to take a full and active part (anything after 3pm PST if I am at work the following day means that I would have less than 2 hours in-zone).  With this reported level of opposition, 'small' raid groups (such as the group of 9-13 people we had yesterday) still get well and truly owned by the collections of VR10 players, especially on the AD side.

But a good fight is a good fight, and will provide excellent training for unit commanders as well as giving us some proper opposition to take down!

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 11:42 AM PDT
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This will make things more lively.  There can be some awesome ways to nullify one side if they don't want to hit their friends in the other alliance.  And when we do come out in force we usually have enough to be in more than one place.  ;)  So much fun to be had.

Now to just be up for the night runs.  Even if it is prime time still on the East Coast, I'm not up to fast stuff by then.  ::chuckles::

Don't mess with Mama Bear, I might hug you too tight. =D
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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 01:53 PM PDT

Well I hear what your all saying. The "challenge" of people to fight was never my intent to mean ruined.  I meant the screwed up boards and point hording and emperor transferring. None of you have even mentioned any of that. maybe none care  like I said Idk. Just the whole thing  bugs me some I guess. If we get back in there and take it all back next few days or this week  then most of what you all are saying will be true. im there in cryodil 3-4 hours a day. everyday. other then last night when  dorin and  30 of us went an took a few keeps.  I have not seen guild helping hopesfire in well awhile. First week we owned it.  there was almost no enemys to fight at all. Well that's changed 10fold so I hope we get back in there an get in the fight. I will be there everyday.

PS  they have transferred emperor 3 times since yesterday.

 

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 02:03 PM PDT
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When mechanics like the Emperorship exist, people will game it. That's just a sad fact of life. You can't stop it, and even the developers can only do so much. So you or I or Fog may think it's a sad commentary on human nature, but the fact is, all we can do is fight in AvA and make it so instead of AD and DC passing Emperorship back and forth, someone from EP has it!

 

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 05:13 PM PDT
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I don't think it breaches the integrity of the AvA either, if they have to team up to have a chance then it is quite natural this would happen.

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Replied On: 04/17/2014 at 07:49 PM PDT

It sounds like Hopes Fire has been 100% improved.  If we own nothing beyond Arrius at the beginning of each evening, we will have lots to do all the time. 

Now if the Pact had guilds in a big treaty, then it would be 100% ruined.  Many of us in Gaiscioch want nothing more than a Good Fight.

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Replied On: 04/18/2014 at 06:34 AM PDT
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I wondered how so many of them seemed to rank up so fast all of a sudden.

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Replied On: 04/18/2014 at 07:40 AM PDT
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I think what Roninhood meant by "ruined" (and I could be wrong) was specifically the fact that a single guild is gaming the system by trading keeps between their chapters for alliance points, gold, and experience (not to mention emperorship). It would be as if GSCH decided to create a chapter for AD and DC both on Hopesfire then setup events to take a keep for their EP chapter, then rotate to AD, then rotate to DC as quickly and efficiently as possible. (Not that we would, because that would go against all that we stand for as a guild, community, and family).

At least that's what I got out of the original post - I have no idea whether that is what is happening. For myself, I never expect others to fight or play fair so it wouldn't surprise me. I'll keep playing the game in a way that is fun for me. I'll continue reporting bots when I find them, gold spammers when they get in my way, and I'll keep zone chat turned off. I'll also keep depositing stuff in the various guild banks (when they are up) and filling Marketplace orders as I can. In the end, all that really matters is that my wife and I are enjoying the time we spend in the game. If/when that changes, we'll stop playing.

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Replied On: 04/18/2014 at 08:39 AM PDT

The Family's comments in the face of this new tag-team threat are fantastic.  We never wanted an easy fight.  It was really getting rather dull grouping up to simply run around the Cyrodiil countryside.

I believe at some point, the guilds that banded together against us will eventually get tired of sharing the spoils and will disband into their own alliance camps.

With this new challenge, having an Emperor from our guild will actually mean something.

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Replied On: 04/18/2014 at 08:46 AM PDT
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You don't rank up fast in ava. They most likely are the product of the initial rush to vr 10. They probibly just now started doing ava. It's time now to knock them down a notch and give them a fight.

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Replied On: 04/18/2014 at 08:51 AM PDT
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I think the majority has spoken and my comment comes a little late. We came to battle as an overwhelming force, and just as it has happened throughout the ages, the meek have risen up against the challenge that is Gaiscioch. They have done this through creating alliances against us. We need to look at this as a HUGE compliment. We are a force on the battlefield and we now have a challenge. Finally we have the foe we have asked for!

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Replied On: 04/18/2014 at 08:54 AM PDT
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@Perun, quoting Shakespeare's Julius Caesar was spot on for this! 

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Replied On: 04/18/2014 at 09:05 AM PDT
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I have to admit I honestly don't care too much about Emperorship I honestly don't see it giving 'that' big an advantage.  Frankly if we wanted it, we could easily take it pretty much anytime we wanted, and honestly until that is no longer the case I feel AD/DC are the underdogs no matter what title or keep trading they might do behind closed doors or while we're leaving them alone. 

As far as I'm concerned we haven't even started seriously playing in AvA yet, it's all been training runs; kill the mage up top, healers first, listen to orders, stay with the group, getting a feel for the map, as well as secondary leaders getting a feel for the reins, etc.  I might be assuming here, but my guess is that once most folks master those tactics we'll split our zerg into smaller tactical groups.  

The beauty of the dual faction thing is that they 'can't' exactly zerg up with each other, their opposing AOE would likely kill as many of their allies as it would us (enemies) so they HAVE to split their 'zerg', which means all kinds of good raid on raid fun to be had on the field once we've gotten in enough practice in GSCH and the enemy has formed some groups.  Sorry rambling cause I'm all 'fercited by the possibilities. :) 

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Replied On: 04/18/2014 at 10:30 AM PDT

So I was looking at the forums today and some others were talking about this very thing. Someone pin-pointed a guild called "Serverity Gaming". Is that one of the guilds Robinhood?

Anyway I went over to thier forums to see if I could read anything about it and there was nothing that they posted specificly about trading things back and forth. I did see that they are having a cryodil skyshard gather event April 26th, at 3PM EST on Hopesfire.

But, I'm actually glad that we don'thave it completely Red anymore because once the majority of us are ready to start pvp'in then it's on like DONKEY KONG!

To be honest it's not like we havn't been faced like this before with Blackgate and Jade Quarry in gw2. They teamed up and we still did very well for many weeks against them. I tihnk we got these guys.

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This actually gets me pretty stoked about tonight... Does this mean we can go back to hopesfire? It's been a rough week at work and I'm looking forward to a good fight. :D 

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Finally some competition!  I would love to see the look on their faces when they are faced with a group the size we have been fielding the last few Friday nights.  It is very hard for them to argue with a group of over 100 - 150 players all determined to take back their homeland. 

The funny thing is that even if they work together they will split up the battleground which will result in fewer points for them, making it harder for them to gain significant ground. 

Time will tell but I look forward to the challenge that this poses. 

I personally do not like to "guest" on other campaigns, I would much prefer to fight on our own battleground. There is a famous quote that I think applies, at least in principle: " To those that have fought for it, Freedom has a taste the protected will never know!"  This quote has guided my actions over the course of my lifetime, 12 years a Marine!  We fight with honor, and integrity in Gaiscioch, that in itself says much about us as a group. If others must resort to such tactics, so be it. We will be much like Rodgers Rangers in the American Revolution, fight behind their lines, hit them where they least expect it, become that thorn in their sides that they never can seem to remove.

Enjoy the battles, we are a force to be acknowledged, and they have done that if they have indeed resorted to this "team effort."  Let it come, we are ready for them!

Caytlynne of Skye

 

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Replied On: 04/18/2014 at 08:03 PM PDT

I still haven't seen a group formed (even by GSCH/allies) that matched the size of keep attacks during beta (a couple hundred on each side... massive wipes in sweeping tides of defensive charges... major lag and slide shows...). However, the efficiency to be found when orders are followed and attacks are focused cannot be discounted. Plus, with the smaller groups, people are not used as casual fodder, and you can count on a rez if things go awry. I NEVER saw a rez in beta.

I think this will be fun. I'm glad to see the other side(s) rise to the challenge in whatever form they take. Please don't let anyone engage in any yelling/arguing about cheating the system (or worse) in /say while we're in the field. If it comes up, it shouldn't be from our side.

Does it matter who has the Emperor title if it's not your alliance? I'm not sure what the benefit of swapping Emperorship is besides keeping a tenuous alliance somewhat satisfied. It doesn't change our strategy, and it doesn't disadvantage us, as far as I know.

*wanders off to sharpen his blades*

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lots of fun tonight....

also I took a screenie of that guy we killed...

it was a really good fignt, but in the end I think they were the ones that got 100% ruined :D great job everyone btw, big thanks to fog and pookha, I had an awesome time.



» Edited on: 2014-04-19 02:52:34

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I think we made our point :D

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Replied On: 04/19/2014 at 01:33 PM PDT
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Awesome job everyone!  I had to duck out early due to being so tired i couldn't even type anymore, so i wish i was there to see it! XD

 

For the Ebonheart! :D

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Replied On: 04/19/2014 at 02:27 PM PDT
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My highest is still just 17 so I have to only PvP when the family Zerg eh... pack is in action.

 

I think a lot of EP PvPers might be off leveling in PvE right now, and soon Gaiscioch will also have more VR10.

 

Was a fun fight last night and I believe it gave me the last batch of honor points needed for promotion:D.

 

I don't have a lot of chance to gain honor points from dungeon groups, so events like this is what I like the most.  Will keep on attending.

 

Spent lots of gold on repairing and buying grand soul gems.  It sucks that death in PvP also cost repair bill, there isn't much gold income from AvA to start with.

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Replied On: 04/19/2014 at 02:30 PM PDT

What an exciting night! I'm new to the game and the guild, quite proud of my level 18 character and willing to give it a good try even though I'm not always quite sure, in the heat of battle, what I'm doing or seeing. So, at one point, I heed Fog and Pookha's call of "Head to the back! To the back, NOW!" I charge in as fast as I can, reach the back, turn around to fight and find that I'm surrounded... and alone. Everyone else is dead. Heaven knows how I was alive  - someone must have thrown a serious heal on me before I ran in. There was a little pause (of incredulity on all sides) and I start swinging and screaming. I was dead in a couple of seconds, but man alive, did I give it all I had!

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Replied On: 04/19/2014 at 05:04 PM PDT

Out of every single post  Elsimer actually gets it  and read what I said.  Was never and is never about the challenge... or a big fight. None of that is what "integrity"means. Also  to all those saying we want a good fight....  well yes.. that's the whole point of the tread also. I am in cyrodil fighting when we have the overwhelming numbers an walk over all the keeps ina  zerg...  I am also there everyday fighting   when I see  2-3  gsch in zone the whole day and  150 online.  to me  AvA or pvp means more then just showing up at a weekly guild event and dominateing.  Now That all being said.  yes Im very happy to see ( and maybe my post helped some if so great again) people get back in there and start fighting for our side more. Goal Reached.

 Thanks for your participation.

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Replied On: 04/19/2014 at 05:36 PM PDT
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If they are teaming up, that's one thing. But if they are win trading by swapping kills, trading scrolls, taking/retaking each others keeps, trading Emperor, etc. , then that is not good. I think it would be against the TOS and they could get banned for it.

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Replied On: 04/19/2014 at 05:39 PM PDT
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Not in AvA more because I am just level 17 and a slow leveler.  Give it more time I am sure a lot more GSCH will be frequent AvA.

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Replied On: 04/19/2014 at 06:42 PM PDT
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I'll admit I've not paid all that much attention to AvA quite yet, still leveling and frankly with work I'm lucky to get to play 3 times a week right now; and it's likely to remain that way throughout the summer :/  But there is only one reason I am playing ESO, and let me just say I HATE PvE, a lot... I generally come home exhausted everyday and just go BLEH I can't do 'that' tonight.  Eventually, I'll make it to the point where I live in Cyrodiil though; and for that "frustration release" you can bet I'll be working AvA every night.    

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Replied On: 04/20/2014 at 04:27 PM PDT
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Freya, I will be your Cyrodiil goat-boy! We shall roam the expanse and flog enemy combatants at our leisure, whilst occasionally pausing to dowse our battle-born thirst with flagons of delectable mead!

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Replied On: 04/20/2014 at 07:23 PM PDT
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Ewww mead?!?  Nay Sir, we should prefer our sourmilk draught, but I'm sure we'll have the strength to shoulder an extra canteen or two between our strings.  Keep the campfire blazin an' we should be along in a week or so, Y'ffre permittin'   Why just this afternoon we found a couple Altmeri wanderin' around in them there lands, we put a quick end to their rabble rousin' what for. *smiles and absently plucks at her bow string*  Was a decent snack aside from the burnt bits, I'm afraid my cookin' needs some improvement *cackles softly and wanders off with a wave over her shoulder*  We'll be seein' ya soon.

;)

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